Isn't dealing with U.S. women worse than prostitution?

Consider this, the institutions of dating and marriage, are heavily in women's favor. Men basically have to pay to initiate relationships (dating: gifts, dinners, flowers, romance) and pay even more when the relationships fail (unequal division of property, alimony, child support, etc.) Women for the most part get a free ride and can end these relationships anytime they want with very little cost to them. Men at the initiation or conclusion of relationships aren't guaranteed anything. They're required to give and expect little in return. Sex is used as a tool of manipulation in the beginning and during these relationships. Men get neither sex nor "love" from U.S. women without it costing them significantly. And to top it off we're expected to love, respect, and cherish these "things" called women. Personally I think men are getting the rawest deal in relationships. I think most US men have been lied to and truth be told we've been sold a bunch of bs about women?

Isn't dealing with U.S. women worse than prostitution?
i agree with every part of this you have some good points
Reply:You have a lot of good points. Nothing is going to change though. Just do your best to get through this life, don't have any children who will have to deal with this world and you will feel a sense of relief when you die.
Reply:please, do us all a favor, and don't have a relationship with anyone, male or female, US citizen or not. you are far to bitter to be a good mate to anyone.
Reply:Your side of the argument is very convincing, but what's her side?





You obviously did not mind the relationship while you were in it otherwise you wouldn't have married her.





Life is not fair, but your rant about women being 'things' sounds almost verbatim like the man-hating women out there.





Try to keep life in perspective.
Reply:Are you serious???





Few, if any, women, EXPECT to have flowers bought for them, and for the guy to pay for dinner all the time, and even if one did, a man could leave her and find one who wasn't so shallow. A man doesn't buy anything unless he CHOOSES to do so.





I can't believe you think a man's paying CHILD SUPPORT while the woman actually RAISES THE CHILD and pays for, oh, I don't know, the OTHER 80-90% required to raise a child is somehow unfair on the man's part.





Please enlighten us with some facts about men not getting sex or love without it costing them. That's silly.





Of course, what can you expect from someone who calls women "things"? At least we're rational...
Reply:Let me tell you that you are absolutely right. Most advice given to men is complete bs! But guess what! Now that you KNOW it is bs you can go right ahead and do SOMETHING else without this bs ever having an emotional hold on you. Ever!





Don't want to take women out on dates? Don't take them. Who is putting a gun to your head to do so? There are plenty of other ways to hook-up: clubs, social gatherings, social circles of friends. (I personally only take my steady gfs to dates. Because I WANT to do something for them, because it makes me HAPPY!) Even be honest that you do not feel comfortable taking women on dates and paying for everything and what sort of a message would that send. Many WOMEN, a lot on this board, would agree with you!





Don't want unfair divison? Whip out a pre-nup, or better yet have enough mental streingth to marry a successful woman who makes more than you where at the very least divorcing her would not be too costly on you, and could possibly be even profitable. If you don't want to support someone go right ahead and be a househusband.





Want sex? Want love? Not getting enough of it? Dump the person. You are under no obligation to stay in a relationship in which you are not happy and not getting what you want. Women do this to men all the time, even the nicest possible men, when a relationship is lacking in what they need.





The truth is, men have WAY more bagraining power in relationships than they think and were raised to think (and it IS a big shame that this was the case). Nowadays I am in no short supply of neither sex nor love and it's GREAT! Women are STARVED of strong and masculine yet nice and kind men that can stir their passions up, someone they can lean on to, rely on and someone who cares about them. They would jump into hot lava for that man, let alone do ANYTHING to please him sexually and emotionally. All it takes is to be that man.
Reply:You tell us. I'm sure you have much more experience in the matter.
Reply:I think you may be on to something. Just remember the pre-nup.
Reply:that's why I have a dog. and will never have another woman who took everything I had even though there were no kids. blood sucking leaches. you can always get sex.....with no strings attached. I guess they are good for some, but not all
Reply:roughrug, I'm sorry you have had such bad experiences with women, however men have been getting away with alot of crap for years. Like impregnating woman and not supporting them or the kid(s). While we have to provide everything for that child, and you get your freedom. So no need to be mad at us, because you guys started this ****, and you are getting what you deserve, so suck it up. Trust me, if you are good to a woman, and you are not a wimp, jerk or schmuck, then you would have less to worry about.
Reply:I agree with you to a certain point. Men are usually expected to pay for dates and many other things that comes from a relationship, but women contribute as well. As a US woman, I was taught that a relationship was equal, where a woman was the support system for the man. and vice versa She takes care of the house, the bills, the children, she remembers the important things to him, and she helps in whatever endeavors that he might have. She is suppose to acknowledge the things that he does for her and show her appreciation of them often. Just like a man is suppose to love and cherish, so is a woman. Not all US women treat men unfairly, and to assume so means that you group of woman is small minded and selfish and you might want to look elsewhere.
Reply:More women should stop expecting men to do everything in relationships. I personally hate it when men do ANYTHING in relationships that I couldn't do myself. However, saying that this is worse than prostitution is a flagrant exaggeration. I don't think I need to explain way.
Reply:that's odd, i pay all the bills in my relationship and work more than 2x the hours of my husband... and do all the cooking %26amp; at least half the housework.


where's this "free ride" you speak of??



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